Betty Butler Responds to Badi Cardenas Review of Tahirih Thealogy by Starr* Saffa

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Greetings Readers

I have posted Betty Butler’s Review of  Badi Villar Cardenas Review of “Tahirih Thealogy” written by myself (Starr* Saffa) because she brings out a very important point about the New Age beginning with Tahirih as the Word of God on Earth.  She is pictured above. Starr*

My name is Betty Butler. I am familiar with Saffa’s “Tahirih Thealogy” as well as with the Babi-Baha’i text which gives me an informed position for commenting on Badi Villar Cardenas’s review. He has a lot of courage to review a book which does not meet with current Baha’i standard statements. I applaud his kind manner and insights.


Cardenas’s review put a lot of emphasis on questioning Saffa’s claim of Tahirih’s Pointhood. Therefore, his review of Tahirih Thealogy is somewhat disappointing in that it does a disservice to the “Proofs and Evidences” chapter of Tahirih’s messianic status that Saffa brilliantly developed and outlined with compelling evidences and reasoning. Sure more and more proofs can eventually be compiled. However, Cardenas basically slides past this chapter as if it was almost non-existent except for a brief mention of Tahirih being the return of Fatima that Saffa points out. Even in this instance he fails to mention that Saffa cited several instances in Baha’i writings and literature where it is confirmed that Tahirih was referred to as the return of Fatima. This should be no surprise to a reviewer as it is well known that Abdu’l-baha likens Tahirih to the Virgin Mary and Fatima who both hold religious status and are associated with such titles as ‘Mother of God’, ‘Mother of the World’ and the like.


I was also disappointed with Cardenas’s indifference to the metaphysical aspects of Revelatory Disclosure which made it convenient for his review to omit Tahirih’s proclamation that she is the “Word that the Promised One utters” that she made at the Conference of Badasht. Anyone familiar with the phrase “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word is God” will easily begin to understand the implications of this prophetic utterance.  The Bab ratified all that Tahirih inaugurated and told all the members of the Babi community to submit to her as all were unable to comprehend her station.


As Saffa explains elsewhere Tahirih, the Point of Divine Knowledge, knew and had written down the Words of the Surih of Joseph long before Siyyid Ali Muhammad penned them for Mulla Husayn. When the Bayan, which was proclaimed by the Bab (Qa’im) is taken into account then it becomes clearer that Tahirih is the foundation Word that the entire Baha’i Faith is built upon (Mother Book).

Cardenas brings some interesting historical research to the review which in some ways support Saffa’s revealing of Tahirih’s equal and interactive station with the Bab; but by omission of information, influence of the present day Bahai lens, and confusion of timing the support ends up withdrawn and perhaps accomplishing the opposite. I hope Saffa will address these points some in her response to Cardenas which is located at. http://tinyurl.com/yuyd4d


I made a short podcast review which addresses other points of Tahirih Thealogy which can be listened to at: http://ourfoothills.com/podcast/ .

Sincerely, Betty Butler


* the Cardenas Review: http://tinyurl.com/2pbzct

2 Comments

2 Comments

fubar (aka ep Eric Pierce) said,

July 3, 2009 at 4:23 pm · Edit

Starr*,

Thanks for upholding the idea that spirituality should be about transcedence and liberation, including liberation from the oppressive, patriarchal aspects of the esoteric traditions. Tahirih’s subversion of oppression is an inspiration.

I find Buddhist ideas about the universality of spirit appealing because they are not burdened by hierarchy definitions and arguments about “who is a prophet” (and what kind of prophet, etc.).

In Buddhism, enlightenment is enlightenment. No artificial, false boundries exist that divide people into “prophets” and “non-prophets”.

Like all other areas of life, some people excel at transcendence, have great mystical talent, and are spiritual geniuses. Some appear at historical moments where great possibilities for social, economic and political paradigm shifts are possible. amd they crystalize the possibilities.

In the past, these people were called “prophets”, etc. Eventually an elaborate system was developed that ranked them. From what I can tell, at the beginning of the babi-bahai system, the belief structure was very open, dynamic, and supportive of creativity. Tahirih of course best exemplifies the creative, spiritual genius of that time. As institutionalization set in, the belief structure became rigid and orthodox. The “middle man scam” set in, and the religious leadership “meme” misappropriated the images and archetypes of spiritual liberation. All the dreary old categories were reimposed, albeit under “reformed” definitions.

Thanks for bringing back the creativity and dynamism, and rescuing Tahirih from being put into a conventional, deprecated category which misrepresents her spiritual, artistic, intellectual and political genius.

tahirihstarr said,

July 5, 2009 at 5:53 pm · Edit

Fubar writes:

“Thanks for bringing back the creativity and dynamism, and rescuing Tahirih from being put into a conventional, deprecated category which misrepresents her spiritual, artistic, intellectual and political genius”

Starr*: Your important comment arrived just as Tahirih’s Words of prophecy unfold in Iran (the clergy losing power) where She proclaims that:

The little tongue (epiglottis) of breath and voice will be cut out at the root of the pretentious shayk’s so their deception will be eradicated from the earth (Farsi translation of the Morn of Guidance, 3rd stanza, not shown in English translations). Also, in that poem She writes that “with the power of equality injustice will evaporate, and with the power of heart-thinking and knowledge ignorance will be destroyed.

Regarding your statements re Buddhism, I would agree that it is a blessing to be living where enlightenment is simply enlightenment. However, Buddhism has suffered the patriarchal male domination causing little awareness of Tara, the female Buddha counterpart, which has limited the flow of Spirit, leaving the religion out of balance. This is why Tahirih closed the gate on all past religions and opened the gate to a universal cycle where the female and male are balanced and the people receive Divine Inspiration within through their connection with Source in the Oneness of creation.

People at the Tahirih Meeting were very appreciative of your comments, as am I. Thank you. Starr*

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2 Comments

  1. fubar said,

    03/07/2009 at 4:23 pm

    Starr*,

    Thanks for upholding the idea that spirituality should be about transcedence and liberation, including liberation from the oppressive, patriarchal aspects of the esoteric traditions. Tahirih’s subversion of oppression is an inspiration.

    I find Buddhist ideas about the universality of spirit appealing because they are not burdened by hierarchy definitions and arguments about “who is a prophet” (and what kind of prophet, etc.).

    In Buddhism, enlightenment is enlightenment. No artificial, false boundries exist that divide people into “prophets” and “non-prophets”.

    Like all other areas of life, some people excel at transcendence, have great mystical talent, and are spiritual geniuses. Some appear at historical moments where great possibilities for social, economic and political paradigm shifts are possible. amd they crystalize the possibilities.

    In the past, these people were called “prophets”, etc. Eventually an elaborate system was developed that ranked them. From what I can tell, at the beginning of the babi-bahai system, the belief structure was very open, dynamic, and supportive of creativity. Tahirih of course best exemplifies the creative, spiritual genius of that time. As institutionalization set in, the belief structure became rigid and orthodox. The “middle man scam” set in, and the religious leadership “meme” misappropriated the images and archetypes of spiritual liberation. All the dreary old categories were reimposed, albeit under “reformed” definitions.

    Thanks for bringing back the creativity and dynamism, and rescuing Tahirih from being put into a conventional, deprecated category which misrepresents her spiritual, artistic, intellectual and political genius.

    • tahirihstarr said,

      05/07/2009 at 5:53 pm

      Fubar writes:

      “Thanks for bringing back the creativity and dynamism, and rescuing Tahirih from being put into a conventional, deprecated category which misrepresents her spiritual, artistic, intellectual and political genius”

      Starr*: Your important comment arrived just as Tahirih’s Words of prophecy unfold in Iran (the clergy losing power) where She proclaims that:

      The little tongue (epiglottis) of breath and voice will be cut out at the root of the pretentious shayk’s so their deception will be eradicated from the earth (Farsi translation of the Morn of Guidance, 3rd stanza, not shown in English translations). Also, in that poem She writes that “with the power of equality injustice will evaporate, and with the power of heart-thinking and knowledge ignorance will be destroyed.

      Regarding your statements re Buddhism, I would agree that it is a blessing to be living where enlightenment is simply enlightenment. However, Buddhism has suffered the patriarchal male domination causing little awareness of Tara, the female Buddha counterpart, which has limited the flow of Spirit, leaving the religion out of balance. This is why Tahirih closed the gate on all past religions and opened the gate to a universal cycle where the female and male are balanced and the people receive Divine Inspiration within through their connection with Source in the Oneness of creation.

      People at the Tahirih Meeting were very appreciative of your comments, as am I. Thank you. Starr*


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